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![[Frost Fair Flag]](../misc/ufe-lond.jpg)
Here is a flag from an illustration of London river Thames in ice in the XIXth
century. Here is the text around the picture:
A FROST FAIR ON THE THAMES. BEFORE SIR JOSEPH BAZALGETTE BUILT THE EMBANKMENTS
IN THE 1840s THE THAMES WAS WIDER, SHALLOWER AND FLOWED MORE SLOWLY. THUS IT
SOMETIMES FROZE OVER IN COLD WINTERS AND QUITE LARGE FAIRS COULD BE HELD ON THE
ICE.
What is this flag ?
Thierry Gilabert, 30 December 2003
To me this appears to be simply a rather crudely depicted British Red Ensign.
Michael Faul, 26 June 2006
![['Malatee' Flag]](../images/b/bd_malat.gif)
by Jaume Ollé
From an old Japanese plate dated 1876. I can't identify this country (Malatee). It is probably related with Bengala (flag of the nawab of Bengala?)
Jaume Ollé, 17 Jan 2000
If this is what I think it is, Malatee is the old name for Malatya, a city
high in the mountains of central Turkey. It was the site of an infamous
massacre of Armenians during or around the time of World War One. Could this
be where the flag is from?
James Dignan, 26 August 2003
I cannot give an exact answer but most probably this flag has nothing to do
with Malatya. First, Jaume Ollè says that it is from an "old Japanese plate".
It is not so likely a Turkish symbol is on such an item in year 1876. Second,
although I cannot say that I'm an expert in Turkish symbolism, I can say that
the flag does not "seem to have" Turkish figures. Third, in Turkey and in this
part of the world, there is no a strong flag tradition like in the west. In
the Ottoman Empire, I know that there are flags of some distant administrative
units. I don't think that a city flag existed. Perhaps it can be claimed that
it is the symbol of a religious or social group in Malatya (or in all
Anatolia). But it won't be far than speculation. The date of the plate (1876)
and that of the so-called "Armenian massacre" (1895) are not far away. Did you
mention it because you think that there can be a relation or just to give
information about the city? In short, my opinion is that Bengala or another
far- eastern origin is much more probable.
Onur Özgün, 16 February 2004
I've done a little more searching in an old encyclopedia to look for other
possibilities, and I note a Malate in the Phillipines, which is now a central
part of the city of Manila. I suppose it's possible it might be connected with
that...?
James Dignan, 16 February 2004
I am attaching an image of a cloth banner. One side is mainly Gold Wire
whilst the Reverse has Silver Wire in the central part. The dimensions are
approx 27 cms x 35 cm. Our best opinion is that it comes originally from the
area of Europe now Poland. It may have been a Royal Banner of some kind. The age
has been calculated at between 200 and 400 years old.
Peter Power-Hynes, 11 April 2003
I think (I'm not sure) it is flag of Konigsberg (modern Kaliningrad).
Victor Lomantsov, 14 May 2003
It bears a resemblance to the coat of arms of modern Prague. I do recall that
on the old town's hall of Prague, the coat of arms appears without the arm and
sword (This was probably added later, after the 30 year war.)
Richard Renes, 25 January 2006
But where does the crowned head on top
of the central tower come from? I don't believe that this flag has anything to
do with Prague.
Jarig Bakker, 26 January 2006
During the women's sprint race of the biathlon world championships, which
took place yesterday in Kanthy-Mansiyisk, a supporter waved an orange flag with
the white writing C C <.
Any idea of the meaning of this flag?
Ivan Sache, 16 March 2003
Probably far from the point, but it seems to be that it could be some company
flag, possibly some big sponsor - say a cell phone company...
Željko Heimer, 17 March 2003
I have a flag that I don't know what it is and I can't find it on your site....I was wondering if you knew what it was?
Niles
Can you help me identify a flag? The middle panel is blue, the outer panels are red. It's a dark blue and a dark red. The x is within the center panel, and it's really like a bold "plus sign" turned on its diagonal. The flag is hanging in a window of a house here in Newport News, VA USA. Frankly, I thought I recognized it as a white supremacist flag used by someone such as the World Church of the Creator. That's what made me want to look it up, rather than just knock on the door and ask. But, of course, my first thought could turn out to be 100-percent wrong.
Dan Montgomery, 31 January 2003
It's not the WCC flag (a red swallow-tailed flag with a crowned and haloed W
on white disc). It resembles the flag of Amsterdam in a curious way. I suggest
"Plan B", which is actually knocking on the door and asking; this looks to me
like it might be a personal flag.
Al Kirsch, 1 February 2003
image by Michael Skowitz, 13 Feb 2003
I have a particular flag (3`x5`) that was given to me by a friend in the
military who served in Germany, where he bought the flag. Neither he nor I know
what it is but upon researching the FOTW site we have found that the black,
white, red was the old German flag and the flag perhaps could be a reference to
old Germany. The flag has a cross on it. I have recreated the flag, and enclosed
in the email an image of it. I would be grateful of any help.
Michael Skowitz, 13 Feb 2003
It might be a proposal for a warflag of the North German Federation (Norddeutscher
Bund) drawn by prince Adalbert. You can see five similar examples on p.65 of
source but not this one.
source: Jörg-M. Hormann; Dominik Plaschke: "Deutsche Flaggen Geschichte,
Tradition, Verwendung", Bielefeld/Hamburg 2006; ISBN 3-89255-555-5
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 12 June 2007