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image by Ivan Sache, 20 March 2008
Lloyds Book of House Flags and Funnels (1912)
shows the house flag of "Gibbs & Lee" (#47, p. 39), a company based in Cardiff
(Wales), as white with two red and white ascending diagonal stripes, a red
letter "G" in upper hoist and a blue letter "L" in lower fly. The shade of blue
is light is lighter than on most other flags shown by Lloyd's.
Bob Sanders lists Gibbs & Lee's "Royal Briton" among the tug boats of Cardiff,
1894 (http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/Tugs1894.html )
Ivan Sache,
20 March 2008
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963
George Gibson & Co. Ltd. One of the survivors with origins back to 1797 and
still going. The flag however is one of uncertainty rather strangely. Not only
do sources disagree over dots after some or all letters or none, but also with
the colours of these letters. Basically they plump for either black or red,
although an 1895 source shows blue, neither of which appear to give any cause
for misinterpretation. In 1920 they absorbed the Rankine Ltd. and some sources
show the flag under Gibson Rankine Line which appears to have been a service
name for trades associated with the latter company. At one stage in the late
1970s/early 1980s they had a German subsidiary, Deutsche George Gibson & Co
Gastanker GmbH Reederei and a Mobil chart of German liveries shows another
version with the upper band being pink and the lower band red.
Neale Rosanoski, 6 June 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, 16 December 2004
Based on
Wedge 1926 G. Gibson & Company, Limited, Leith.
Triband red-white-blue, proportioned 2:1:2; on white "G.G.&Co" in black.
Jarig Bakker, 16 December 2004
image located by Neale Rosanoski, 18 July 2005
George Gibson & Co. Ltd. The correct version as shown by the
National Maritime Museum site has red letters with dots [see gb~g216.gif attached] and is dated
c.1951. The version shown for Wedge 1926 with a narrower white band, repeated in
the 1929 and 1934 editions, disagrees on the whole with other publications of
this period which show equal bands.
Neale Rosanoski, 18 July 2005
The flagchart "Vlaggen in de haven van Amsterdam" (flags in the harbour of
Amsterdam), no date shows the flag of the Gibson Rankine Line, Leith (Scotland)
- white with a rope in TV-screen form around two masted flag in saltire. The
flag to the hoist is the Gibson flag; the flag at fly-side
maybe another Gibson flag, though the letters are hardly visible
Jarig Bakker, 6 July 2004
Gibson Rankine Line. The flag is not shown by any other source but the design
of the crossed flags did appear on the funnels of craft involved on certain
routes. The 2nd flag is that of Rankine Line Ltd. operated by James Rankine &
Sons until taken over in 1920 and comprises 5 horizontal bands of
red-white-blue-white-red with on the blue band the white letters "GR&SA".
Sources vary as to whether the bands were equal with some showing the blue
widest but then varying amongst themselves as to whether the red and white were
equal or greater than one or the other.
Neale Rosanoski, 18 July 2005
It’s a triangular flag with horizontal
bottom, purplish blue with a dark blue
border around it except in the hoist.
Jorge Candeias, 24 Feb 1999
G.T. Gillie & Blair. Judging from the company website at www.gillieblair.com the flag image comprises a mauve field with a very dark blue border except at hoist, these two colours being fimbriated white [see above]. Although the image seems to suggest that the flag comprises a right angled triangle I wonder as this would be most unusual and a normal long pennant would seem possible, particularly as the flags previously shown have been pennants.
Talbot-Booth in Merchant Ships 1944 shows a blue pennant with a white
orle (above, left) whilst Brown1951 and Stewart 1963 have the orle
extending to the hoist (above, right) with Brown showing a
thicker white. Whether these represent changes in design or colours I do
not know but the format would seem to be basic after allowing for
artistic licence from the sources. Also note that Stewart shows under
the name of their subsidiary Firth Shipping Co. Ltd.
Neale Rosanoski, 15 June 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, 3 November 2005
Glenlight Shipping Ltd., Ardossan - red swallowtail, in center narrow white
stripe; white disk, charged with black "G".
Source: Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 3 November 2005
Based on Sampson (1957) This flag flies
under a blue pennon charged with a white Maltese cross (possibly on a black
square?)
James Dignan, 18 October 2003
Blue pennant with white Maltese cross over a red and white flag quartered
diagonally, with Union Jack in center.
Jarig Bakker, 18 October 2003
Founded in the mid 1800s in Glasgow. The company name emerged in 1868. In 1880
became known as McGregor, Gow & Company, although it was still promoted as the
Glen Line. Glen Line Ltd was formed in 1910. The shares of the company were
acquired by Elder, Dempster and Co. in 1911. As Elder, Demster was owned by
Royal Mail, the ensuing problems of caused by Lord Kylsant resulted in the line
being a part of Alfred Holt and Co. (later known as Ocean Transport and Trading
Co.). Glen Line ceased to own ships in 1978, and the Ocean Transport and Trading
Co. was purchased by P&O, which sold the Glen Line assets to Curnow Shipping
Limited. The company is not operating, although it appears to be still legally
registered.
Phil Nelson, 19 October 2003
Glen Line. Originally the blue pennant flown superior had a white hoist
bearing a blue saltire befitting the Scottish origin of the founders. By the
1912 books the Maltese Cross version was being shown whilst some sources show
this as just a cross couped. A couple of early sources also show the Union Flag
panel without any white but this seems to be printing blues.
Neale Rosanoski, 6 June 2004
Based on
Wedge 1926 Glover Brothers, London - quartered
diagonally white and red; on white "GB" in blue.
Jarig Bakker, 16 December 2004
image by Ivan Sache, 12 March 2008
Lloyds Book of House Flags and Funnels (1912)
shows the house flag of "John Glynn & Son" (#5, p. 37), a company based in
Liverpool, as red with, in the middle, the white letters "A E".
Ivan Sache, 10 March 2008
The flag is white with a white canton fimbriated in black and charged with a
black pig's head. The letters GG & Co. (black), in a kind of cursive writing,
are placed in lower fly.
Source: 1911 Lloyd's flagbook, as illustrated at
The Mystic
Seaport Foundation.
Ivan Sache, 14 January 2004
George Gordon & Co. The emblem is a boar's head [the boar was an early Royal
emblem in Scotland] rather than a pig's [see the attached scan from Lloyds] with the company being shown as a sailing ship operator. They
appear to have still been in existence in 1937 still being shown in Lloyds but with
no indication as to in what capacity.
Neale Rosanoski, 18 July 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, 11 November 2005
Gotaas-Larsen Ltd., London; white swallowtail, blue circle enclosing blue
5-pointed star.
Source: Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 11 November 2005
From Scott, R.M., The Caltex book of Flags and Funnels, Cape Town, Caltex Africa
Ltd. (1959).
Goulandris Brothers, Piraeus - actually a Greek company,
but with a London agency. A blue flag, white Greek "Gamma" ("G") on Greek
ships, but a letter G on ships under other than Greek flag.
However Brown 1951 [Wedge (1951)] shows for the
Goulandris brothers in their agency in London a blue flag with a Latin "G".
Jarig Bakker, 6 January 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, 15 February 2006
N.J. Goulandris, London - blue burgee, "G" around "NJ", all yellow.
Source: Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 15 February 2006
image by Jarig Bakker, based on the website of the National Maritime Museum.
From the website of the National
Maritime Museum, "the house flag of Govan Shipbuilders Ltd. A rectangular
blue flag with a white saltire broken in the centre by the letters 'GS'. The
flag is made of a synthetic fibre bunting. It has a cotton hoist and logo. A
rope and toggle is attached."
Jarig Bakker, 13 August 2004
The logo is this image. I’ve seen both versions: in deep and in
light blue, and don’t know which one is the right one (if any).
Jorge Candeias, 30 Jan 1998
From Scott, R.M., The Caltex book of Flags and Funnels, Cape Town, Caltex Africa
Ltd. (1959).
Graig Shipping Co. Ltd., Cardiff - flag horizontal white over green, red "G".
Jarig Bakker, 2 January 2005
Graig Shipping Co. Ltd. Owners were Idwal Williams & Co. Ltd. This was their
main operating subsidiary [now Graig Ship Management Ltd.] but they have also
operated Glynafon Shipping Co. Ltd. and Garth Shipping Co. Ltd. with the flag
being common. The name "Graig" originates from their first vessel.
Neale Rosanoski, 18 July 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, 10 January 2006
Great Eastern Co. (London) Ltd., London - per fly, diagonal orange over
green, in center black "G".
Source:
Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 10 January 2006
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963
Based on
The flagchart "Vlaggen in de haven van Amsterdam" (flags in the harbour
of Amsterdam), no date. Per saltite white and blue, clockwise letters G S Co Y
which read correctly anticlockwise. Basically the same design as above but with
different colors and smaller letters
Jarig Bakker, 6 July 2004
Great Yarmouth Shipping Co. Ltd. According to Brown 1943 and 1951 there was an
earlier flag of blue, two narrow white horizontal bands well spread with a white
"S" between them [see below]. Possibly suspect as the letter
hardly seems appropriate. The change, if there was one, to the yellow and black
flag is shown by Stewart in 1953.
Neale Rosanoski, 15 June 2004
Brown's Flags and Funnels, 1951, also shows a flag blue with narrow white
horizontal strips at 1/3 and 2/3 of flag height; in the center a white capital
S.
Jarig Bakker, 6 July 2004
image by Ivan Sache, 3 December 2005
A nicely designed house flag is shown on a handbill (middle of page) at
http://www.proni.gov.uk/exhibiti/austral/bound.htm, namely that of Green,
Robinson & Co. “established by Willis & Co., in 1843”. The handbill advertises a
sailing planned for 20 July 1864 – obviously the transport of emigrants was
important to the company.
A white triangular flag with a thin red border bears a red crescent and a red
eight-pointed star.
I have not been able to find much, except for the fact that Willis & Co. was a
Liverpool firm – but others say Scarborough.
Jan Mertens, 30 November 2005
image by Ivan Sache, 10 April 2008
Lloyds Book of House Flags and Funnels (1912)
shows the house flag of "Grimsby Steam Fishing Co., Ltd." (#253, p. 49), a
company based in Grimsby, as red with a yellow cross in the middle. Grimsby was
once the largest fishing port in the world. The Cod Wars with Iceland (1958,
1972, 1975-76) and the depletion of fish stocks in the Atlantic Ocean caused the
decline of the trawler fleet of Grimsby.
Ivan Sache, 10 April 2008
image by Jarig Bakker, based on the website of the National Maritime Museum.
From the website of the National
Maritime Museum, "the house flag of Guinea Gulf Line Ltd., Liverpool. A flag
with a black field bearing a white five-pointed star in the centre. The red
letters 'GG' are placed in the middle of the star. The flag is made of a wool
and synthetic fibre bunting. It has a cotton hoist and is machine sewn. A rope
and toggle is attached."
Jarig Bakker, 13 August 2004
images located by Neale Rosanoski, 18 July 2005
Guinea Gulf Line Ltd. I suspect a possible error here on the Museum's part in
describing the field as black. All book sources describe it as blue and
certainly my perusal of the Museum image, especially with the enlarged version
which they provide, is that it is a very dark blue. Whatever the answer, the
firm was previously John Holt & Co. (Liverpool) Ltd. with origins going back to
1862. As such it used a similar design [with a blue field] but with the letters
being "JH". The name change to Guinea Gulf Line Ltd.
occurred in 1954. In 1965 it was acquired by Elder Dempster Line Ltd. and
appears to have faded out around 1980. Brown 1982 shows a slightly different
version of the star with it being squatter and the horizontal arms angled.
Neale Rosanoski, 18 July 2005
Guinea Gulf Line. The field is a dark blue not black. It originated from the
flag of John Holt & Co. (Liverpool) Ltd. which was the previous name of this
company up until 1954 only it had the initials "JH" on the star. I checked this
out with the National Maritime Museum and Barabara Tomlinson confirmed that the
field was indeed blue and their website information has been altered
accordingly.
Neale Rosanoski, 13 October 2005
image by Ivan Sache, 8 April 2008
Lloyds Book of House Flags and Funnels (1912)
shows the house flag of "Gulf Line, Ltd. (Furness, Withy & Co., Ltd.)", a
company based in London, as white with a red swallow-tailed rectangle in the
middle.
Quoting the "TheShipsList" website:
"The Greenock S.S. Co.
was formed in 1879 to operate services to the Persian Gulf, extended to
Australia as required and in 1883 a route to the Gulf of Mexico was inaugurated.
In 1891 services to South America replaced the Persian Gulf route. There were
now two main services - Gulf of Mexico and Australia via South America or direct
via Suez. In 1899 the Gulf Line was formed and in 1903 Christopher Furness
acquired a controlling interest in the company. Gulf Line sold its interests in
the South America trade to F. W. Ritson's Branch Line in 1906 and after the
Great War, the fleet declined and went into liquidation in 1929."
As
expected, several ships operated on the Gulf Line were called "Gulf of ..."
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/gulf.htm
"It is announced
that Sir Christopher Furness, the well-known shipowner, has bought the Gulf Line
of Greenock. The line consists of six vessels aggregating 19,502 tons."
"The
New York Times", 21 June 1902
More on the history of the related
"Furness, Withy & Co." can be found here:
http://www.economy-point.org/f/furness-withy-amp-co.html
http://www.oceanlinermuseum.co.uk/Furness%20Withy%20Group%20history.html
http://portcities.hartlepool.gov.uk/server.php?show=ConNarrative.90
Ivan Sache,
8 April 2008
image by Jarig Bakker, 28 October 2005
Gulf Offshore N.S., Aberdeen - white flag, black outlined globe, blue "G".
Source:
Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 28 October 2005