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Though Faber College is in Pennsylvania, the
room used during the probation-hearing scene features the Tennessee
flag. Aparently, the directors first wanted to use an
Oregon flag in that scene, but the "State of Oregon"
printed on the flag was too obvious. So they substituted a Tennessee
flag as a "generic-looking" US state flag ... although, of course, few
flags are more typical of "generic" US state flags than Oregon's own.
Andrew S. Rogers, 8 september 2004
I don't think Faber's location is ever revealed. The movie was filmed
on a campus in Oregon, is based on a series of articles about
Dartmouth College (in New Hampshire), and has a Pennsylvania...feel,
perhaps, but the flag is the only pointer as to where it is.
Nathan Lamm, 8 september 2004
Odd. There is a rich vein of Web sites all indicating Faber was
definitively placed in Pennsylvania. But we know how reliable the
non-FOTW-ws portions of the 'Net can be, so I gladly yield to you on
this. One site seemed to imply that Faber was positively placed in
Pennsylvania in the "Delta House" television sitcom that was based on
the movie (that was based on the series of articles...)
Andrew S. Rogers, 8 september 2004
Early in the movie you can see the fort of Champlain flying a french
merchant flag (white cross on blue). Beside the justnest or not of it
flying on *any* fort, in this particular circumstances, we have a
first hand document that prove it false.
There is an engraving in the "Voyages du sieur de Champlain" p.187
(which he published in 1613) made from a drawing of his "Abitation de
Quebecq" [residence of Quebec]. Over the sun dial can be seen a pole
with a flag flying from it. It is rather small but is bifurcated and
near the hoist can be seen 3 cross-like objects (1 over 2) which one
would assume to be fleur-de-lys. There are no colours but logic would
dictate either a white or blue background.
Marc Pasquin, 30 april 2005
I have been trying to identify a flag shown in the movie Casablanca. It is
painted on a wall over the legend "Ville de Casablanca" and is a French
tricolor defaced with a star and crescent in the center band. The film is in
black and white, of course, but I assume the star and crescent are green.
Larry Holderfield, 2 january 2004
[Editor's Note: This is an unexistent flag as can be read here.]
In this movie which involves the Paris
Olympics of 1924, the flags on the US uniforms have
50-stars, IIRC. Not that I could count them, but they
were definitely in the staggered row pattern of the
current S&S, not the grid pattern of the 48-star
version of 1912-1959.
Terence Martin, 8 september 2004
This flag was featured in the movie "Dark of the Sun" (MGM 1967). The flag
is supposed to represent the Congo, and is seen in the movie flying from a
car antenna and painted on a barracks wall.
David Shiell, 30 april 2001
Just today I catched the very begining of the movie Dracula 2000.
In the opening scene, camera is on the crane traveling from the top of
the ship passing next to flying Red-Blue-White (Serbian
national/peoples) flag.
Milan Jovanovich, 7 August 2007
First, there's white-blue-red flag of Russia as seen here but a bit later, indeed, there's the Serbian flag which you can see here
Mariusz Borkowski, 8 August 2007
It could very well be that the Russian flag was turned upside down in distress
(I haven't seen the movie, nor do I care to, but the second shot shows a crew
indeed in distress, I don't know what happened in the intervening shots though.)
David Kendall, 9 August 2007
I just watch the movie, but it looks like that dracula arrived on that ship in
19th century.
THey also read some old church slavonic papers, wich is weird since Vlad is from
ROmania.
Milan Jovanovic, 9 August 2007
Actually, that ship scene is from 1897, and Serbia did use RBW flag
back then.
But I think there's no use in searching for logic here, eg. that ship's
name - DEMETER - was written in Latin alphabet, unlikely on a ship
from either Russia or Serbia (landlocked anyway)...
Mariusz Borkowski, 9 August 2007
The arrival of the Demeter in the port of Whitby is described in
Chapters VI and VII of Bram Stoker's "Dracula". The ship is said to be
Russian and to come from Varna (Bulgaria).
At the end of Chapter VI, a coast guard spots the ship with his
telescope and says: "A foreign ship, for sure, probably Russian". There
is no mention of a ensign (not in the next Chapter either), but I guess
that the coast guard identified the ship through its ensign.
Ivan Sache, 10 August 2007
It was quite amazing to see the Exodus" entering Haifa Port after sailing from Cyprus, (BTW, the real Exodus
came from Germany via France and its immigrants were deported to Germany),
with very big IL flag on the back (stern?), a small IL flag on the front
(bow?) and a UK red ensign on the main mast.....
Well, I can't expect any illegal immigrants ship having such combination of
flags....
Dov Gutterman, 9 july 2005
During the 1863 battle of the American Civil War that gave its name to the movie, you see command
officers gallop here and yon over the field trailed by staff
officers carrying Second National flags, which were used as HQ flags in
the CS Army. The problem is, no Second National flags were at Gettysburg
in 1863, despite the flag having been enacted by law in early May of
that year . There is a single exception to this and it is the mock-up
Second National flag for the 32nd North Carolina Infantry, but as they
are not portrayed in the film we'll leave this out.
The reason why this was the historical case was a wool bunting shortage
at the Richmond Depot which made the flags for Robert E. Lee's army.
We have not found a single Second National HQ flag being issued to that
army before October, 1863.
The second error is the incorrect version of the Army of Northern
Virginia battle flag. Most depicted in the film are of the Fourth Bunting
variety, which was not issued until May, 1864! These flags are larger
in size to earlier ANV flags and feature larger stars that are more
spread out on the arms of the blue crosses rather than the smaller stars
that are concentrated on the flag's center star.
Greg Biggs, 28 october 2002
The setting of the movie "My Cousin Vinny" is the US state of Alabama,
a fact central to the plot. The state flag is seen throughout the
movie in courthouse scenes (although, incorrectly, to the right of the
US flag out front). Oddly, the cover of the video box shows, hanging
to either side of the judge, the US flag- and the flag of, of all
places, San Francisco (which I doubt is flown even in courts there,
state flags being used). The movie was not filmed in San Francisco.
Nathan Lamm, 7 september 2004
In the Steve Martin-Bernadette Peters remake of "Pennies from Heaven", the later
plays a schoolteacher in Depression-era America. The flag chart on her
classroom wall shows the anachronistic maple leaf flag of Canada and the trident flag of
Barbados
Albert S. Kirsch, 8 september 2004
In this 1985 Meryl Streep movie, Whitney Smith's Guyana flag, designed in the 1960s, is displayed in a scene set during Queen Elizabeth's coronation in 1953.
Andrew S. Rogers, 8 september 2004
Very near the
beginning of the movie we see an envoy sent by the Queen of France
(it's set just prior to the revolution, circa 1780), and we get a
close-up of the flag carried by the envoy. It is basically a
simplified version of the French royal standard, but without the chain or
supporters - i.e., the white seme of gold fleurs-de-lys, with a
simple shield in the centre (blue with three fleurs-de-lys) topped by
a crown.
James Dignan, 2 january 2005
On a black and white viewing of "Sea Hawk" with Errol Flynn, in one of
the last scenes of the film, Elizabeth Regina comes to the sea port, or
on board ship the flag in the background was quarterly England and
France - the quarters reprenting France looked to be gold lillies on a
white field. I suppose it could have been "light blue" - the film was
black and white, remember - Anybody got a comment about that? Any chance
that the "French quarters" were on a white field, as opposed to a blue one?
John Udics, 3 january 2005
Not unless it was a mistake from the prop department. "france ancien"
represented the english claim the the french throne, a white flag was
symbolic of the Bourbon House so would make no sense being used by an
english monarch.
Marc Pasquin, 3 january 2005
Last night I saw a BBC documentary/dramatisation about the Brooklyn
Bridge, which showed a reenactment of the opening ceremony.
I'm fairly sure a 44-star flag was shown hoisted at the opening (rows
of 8,7,7,7,7,8). Yet the opening was in 1883 - that flag would have
been used between 1890 and 1896.
James Dignan, 8 september 2004
In one scene of the movie, the Panamanian flag on the villain's yacht is upside down.
Albert S. Kirsch, 8 september 2004
A movie about the Navajo code senders of World War II. There is one scene where the camera shows
a close-up of a US flag flying on a pole and you hear the Navajo
soldiers taking the oath of enlistment in the background. This takes place
during WWII in the 1940's, yet the stars on the flag are in a staggered
pattern as in the current 50 star flag. The full flag isn't shown, so I can't count the stars,
but the lower right hand corner of the canton is shown, and the stars
are definitely not in the rectangular 48 star pattern.
Michael P. Smuda, 28 october 2002
The opening scene of the movie takes place in Madagascar, and the
guards outside the fictional embassy of Nambutu are clearly wearing Madagascar
flag patches although I suppose many embassies around the world have local
forces outside.
Nathan Lamm, 28 November 2006
by Marc Pasquin, 10 August 2006
Above is the counterfactual flag
of the british East India Company as seen in the movie
"Pirates of the Caribeans: Dead Man's chest".
The flag has a black field with the Company's logo in
white centered. Not only doesn't this flag even
remotly resemble one of its historical counterpart but
I wasn't even able to match the logo itself with the
company's emblem (has someone seen it before ?).
As to why the moviemakers chose to go with this one
instead of the real one, baring the lack of research,
I can think of 2 reasons:
I saw something like the above flag in Pirates of the Caribbean:
At World's End. It is flown by many of the British ships in the film.
From the initials, I assume it's an East India Company flag. Was
this a real flag, or was it invented for the film, maybe because of
the resemblance between the real E.I.C. flag and the U.S. flag, which
would probably confuse a lot of people?
Tyler Dykstra, 25 May 2007
The movie is a 1941-vintage black-and-white Errol Flynn extravaganza sanitizing
Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer's life-- and death.
In the opening part dealing with the Civil War, a confederate cavalry
detachment is shown riding into battle against the U.S. cavalry with
a rectangular battle flag with the southern cross affixed in what
appears to be the same dimension as the English cross of St. George-- a
blue vertical and horizontal affair with the requisite 13 white
five-pointed stars. At least the red field and white outline of the
cross seem to be in evidence. I have no idea where Jack Warner came up
with letting that one slip by him, and his production chief, Hal B.
Wallis, was no slouch when it came to historical research.
Bob Tobin, 19 february 2006
[editor's note: Since the movie is in a black & white, the flag could be one following the "Polk" design which can be seen here]
The movie stars David Niven and Charlton Heston. The film
opens with the hoisting of the various foreign legation flags in the Foreign
Compound next to the Forbidden City. A Royal Marine Band played God Save
the Queen while a Union Jack was raised. It had a central device which I
could not make out, surrounded by a green garland, rather like the Colonial
Governor's standards from that epoch. But of course no Governor in Peking.
What could it have been? A special legation flag? (Always assuming of
course that the film makers knew what they were doing)
Andre Burgers, 19 july 2004
I am trying to obtain information on the U.S. flags shown in the
parade scene of the 1989 motion picture "Glory" starring Matthew
Broderick.
As far as I can tell, they could either be the Lincoln Parade
Flag (but I don't know when this flag was created) or the Great Flower
Flag (which fits the time period), but may also be a different flag
altogether.
Terry Sackett, 4 april 2005
A few days back, I was waiting for my email to download and turned the TV
on for a little zapping while I waited...
... and all of a sudden, there was a flag floating on a ship. It was on
screen for a very short time, but looked like this: a light
green treefoil (of sorts) on white.
I learned later, after checking the TV programming in the newspaper, that it
was a movie: the portuguese title (Tarzan, o Homem Macaco) can be
translated back into English as "Tarzan, the Ape-man". It's a John Derek
motion picture, with the very blonde Bo Derek as Jane .
Jorge Candeias, 31 march 2001
The banner appears in the Mel Brooks remake of "To Be Or Not To Be." It was a rectangular banner, hanging on an office wall. At the top (in chief?) was the Nazi flag (a horizontal red bar with the white circle and black swastika). The rest of the banner was a vertical black-white-red tricolor. A real banner or just a movie prop?
Phil Cleary, 24 November 1999
I recently viewed the movie The Crimson Pirate (1952), starring Burt
Lancaster. While liking the movie will depend on your tastes, it does show
a lot of flags and banners. The main flag on the ship of "the King" is a
many divided variation of a flag of Spain. Castile and Leon dominate the
upper left with at least 6 other divisions.
Michael P. Smuda, 16 april 2004
In the film (set in 1805), there is a scene where the British warship
disguises itself as a whaler, hoisting a white flag with a black
diamond (not touching the edges). Can someone shed some light on this?
Nathan Lamm, 23 august 2004
I went to see "Max" a movie about Hitler's early years... A couple scenes show a red flag with a dark (black?) star in the center. The year was 1918 and I assume the country was germany .. What flag would this be?
Ted LeBlond, 03 march 2003
Only a guess, but in 1918 Germany was wracked by civil disorder after
the Kaiser abdicated; the flag you describe might be (authentic or
not) a political flag of some kind.
Al Kirsch, 03 march 2003
Given the coloration, this may be an anarchist flag, but that is only speculation. It also brings to mind socialist and communist groups.
Steve Kramer, 04 march 2003
The trailer I just saw on TV of the movie "The Talented Mr Ripley" (Matt Damon) shows a scene in which the star is piloting a gondola (or something like that). Behind him is a large red flag with yellow ornate, oriental type design on it.
Steve Stringfellow, 06 January 2000
It is the flag of Venice
Antonio Martins, 07 January 2000
Yesterday I went to the cinema to see the film 'Speed 2', in which appear 3 different flags: the flag of France, the Norwegian naval ensign and a flag I couldn't identify: a black-purple-yellow horizontal tricolour. It appears when the ship crashes into the island of Saint Martin in the Caribbeans, probably in the french half of it, since there is also the french tricolour flying
Jorge Candeias 01 September 1997
[ED. Note: later contributions speculated that it might be a faded or oddly lighted German flag]
The following flag appeared in the film "K-19" as one of the soviet naval flags flown on the submarine or presented during the film associated with the ship.
Blas Delgado Ortiz, 25 january 2003
This is a fictional flag, not a real one or a prototype.
Victor Lomantsov, 26 january 2003
Well, it is either based on / inspired by, or mistaken for, the soviet ensign of 1935-1991 -- with a second blue stripe at the top and missing the hammer-and-sickle emblem.
The approximate similarity may be thus intentional or not, but either way this is not your typical "fictional flag", even if these frequently resemble real flags (especially when the «typical south american / central european / sotheast asian / whatever country» is inspired by a very specific single-country reality) -- as it (I assume) is intended to be a Soviet flag, not the flag of an unnamed fictional country so much alike the Soviet Union.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 28 january 2003
Based on a true story about a cold war Soviet sub. Starred Harrison Ford. National Geographic's first feature film, made with Paramount.
Nathan Lamm, 28 january 2003
It was in an Unidentified Motion Picture (UMP) that had a plot evolving
around a breakaway russian republic (or so it seemed by the bit I saw) and
the UFE was, I guess, it's national flag. The flag was quite well seen,
hanging on the wall behind one of the bad guys that where trying to break
away from Russia: it was the russian flag with a golden yellow star added
to it, old yugoslavian-style. The flag seemed to me longer than the
standard 2:3 dimentions, but not as long as 1:2, so I made it 3:5.
I didn't have time to go on watching, and later when I had a minute to go
to the day's newspaper and check the UMP's title, it (the newspaper) had
already been sent to the recycling spot. But it was american.
Jorge Candeias, 30 june 2001