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by Martin Grieve, 10 July 2007
Did Nelson's use of the white ensign at Trafalgar result in the use of the white ensign by the Royal Navy?
The White Ensign became the sole ensign of the Royal Navy in 1864. The use of
the White Ensign by Nelson at Trafalgar may have influenced the choice, but I
think was not the main reason. The Red Ensign was the obvious choice of ensign
for the Royal Navy as it was the ensign of the senior squadron. However merchant
ships had always used the Red Ensign, and it would not have been practical to
change that. The White Ensign was next in seniority.
David Prothero, 12 September 2002
Under what circumstances can the White Ensign be flown, apart from HMS and Naval shore establishments? Particularly Merchant Navy vessels and replicas of early Naval Square Riggers not now directly associated with the RN. What qualifies these vessels to fly the
White Ensign (ex RN crewmembers perhaps) and where should the ensign be worn (stern flagstaff, masthead etc.)?
Tom Robinson, 24 June 2000
My purely amateur understanding of the matter is that a British owned vessel that flies the White Ensign is committing a Statutory Offence and is liable to prosecution, unless it is operated by the Royal Navy or has a warrant to fly the White Ensign issued by the Ministry of Defence (Navy).
David Prothero, 4 July 2000
David is quite correct that only vessels of the Royal Navy or the Royal Yacht Squadron (plus the Trinity House vessel "Patricia" when escorting the Sovereign) are allowed to fly the white ensign at sea or in harbour. The question of historic warrants for restored ships is still "under consideration" but there is a great deal of reluctance in the MoD to grant such warrants.
Ships captained and officered by RNR Officers can apply for an
undefaced Blue Ensign.
Graham Bartram, 4 July 2000
Members of the Royal Yacht Squadron are granted the privilege of flying the white ensign, at stern, to denote nationality, on their recreational boats.
Jose C. Alegria, 2 July 2000
Any vessel owned by the Royal Navy proper can fly the White Ensign, whether it
is a commissioned warship or a un-commissioned boat (e.g. a landing craft
operated by the Royal Marines). However, only a commissioned warship ("HMS") can
fly the masthead pennant.
Miles Li, 16 March 2005Use of White Ensign on Land
The use of the White Ensign on land is a grey area as it is not clear what law, if any, is being broken (Britain not having land flag laws as such).
Graham Bartram, 4 July 2000
The Admiralty disapproved of the use of the White Ensign on land and did what they could to discourage it. (I imagine that the Ministry of Defence (Navy) take a similar view.) They were not able to prosecute anyone who did fly the White Ensign since, as Graham wrote, there are no British laws that relate specifically to the use of flags on land.
The White Ensign is used by some football fans, who write the name of the club they support along the horizontal arm of the St George's cross. I have never heard of any attempt to curtail or prohibit this.
If the authorities did want to take action against its use they could prosecute those responsible under other, more general, laws. For example: an Italian restaurant that flew the Italian Flag was prosecuted by the local authority with breach of the planning regulations on the grounds that the flag was an unauthorised advertisement. I imagine that it would also be possible under certain circumstances to charge a person or organisation that flew the White Ensign on land with misrepresentation, or acting with intent to deceive.
One ironic result of this situation is that, whilst those who possibly have no regard for the Royal Navy can use the flag almost with impunity, organisations or individuals who would like to fly the White Ensign as an indication of their support for the Navy, or of their former association with it, do not do so, since they know that it would not meet with the approval of the Navy.
David Prothero, 5 July 2000
When arranging a funeral in January 2000, I considered a white ensign on the coffin as an act of remembrance. I contacted the Admiralty in London where I was referred to the Flag Lieutenant in the First Sea Lords Office. He referred me to the Portsmouth Naval Base which deals with requests for buglers flags, honour guards, etc. I discovered the ensign is not officially used at funerals but some people do use it anyway.
Hugh Watkins, 6 July 2000
The British command flag of an 18thC Admiral of the White was usually St George's Cross, flown at the relevant mast truck (main, fore, mizzen, for Admiral,
Vice-Admiral, Rear-Admiral), as Nelson's as Vice-Admiral of the White at Trafalgar; that for an Admiral of the Fleet or acting Admiral of
the Fleet was the Union at the main, with red Ensign at the mizzen or flagstaff (as Howe's at the Glorious First of June, 1794).
Roger Marsh, 31 December 2001
The White Ensign is for the exclusive use of the Royal Navy, and for private
citizens to fly it on land is inappropriate, and on sea definitely illegal.
Miles Li, 22 May 2003
It certainly is subject to controls on land. It flies at RN shore bases
(technically commissioned warships in their own right) and at the Cenotaph. The
Royal Yacht Squadron can also use it. The reason that I know that it is subject
to quite stringent controls is what happened around Trafalgar Day this year. See
this page on the MOD site:
Royal Navy encourages all to 'Fly the Flag'.
David Newton,
10 November 2005
Although we would rather people didn't fly a White Ensign on land without
authorization, the plain truth is that if they choose to do so there is nothing
we can do about it. They are not breaking any laws. They don't even need
"advertising consent" because the White Ensign is a national flag under our
advertising rules. Some locations are authorized, such as RN bases, St Martin's
in the Field (the RN's church), and a couple of others.
For the 200th Anniversary of Trafalgar the First Sea Lord (head of the RN)
actually asked everyone to fly White Ensigns, and Her Majesty graciously gave
her permission for Government buildings to fly the White Ensign over the
weekend. We also had several private buildings in strategic locations fly White
Ensign to dress the scene, this included buildings near St Paul's, where the
memorial service was held, and in Trafalgar Square, where the special show was
held. The New Zealand and Australian High Commissions flew their own White
Ensigns for the occasion. The RAF church, St Clement's Dane, also flew a White
Ensign in addition to their RAF Ensign. We had a huge White Ensign flying from
the Canadian Flagpole in Jubilee Gardens, next to the London Eye. Even Downing
Street was flying a White Ensign.
Graham Bartram, 10 November 2005
Was the white ensign the normal colour for RN Naval Brigades? - Mike "Botch" Blake, 21 November 2005
I've had a look in what I've got to hand at the moment, namely:
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by Martin Grieve, 10 July 2007
Before I tackled the white ensign of the TS WNTS recently, I decided it was
time to take a closer look at the Royal Navy white ensign on it's own, and in
particular the construction details of this famous flag. I drew my version from
description by Graham Bartram on fotw. White panels are 13x28 with the St
George's cross 4 units wide, and this is where the problem comes in - Union Jack
is no longer and mathematically cannot be in the "usual" ratio of 1:2. So, now I
decided to look at UJ specs, and decided that the width of the red St George is
1/10th the length of the UJ with the white fimbriations adjacently on each side
of this being exactly 1/3rd of this figure.
I then drew up the diagonals in accordance with Flaggenbuch (1939),
St Patrick Saltire width=width of white fimbriation, this figure being 1/3rd the
width of St Andrew's Saltire. This results in some "ugly" dimension figures to 6
decimal places, which I decided to round-off for aesthetic purposes on my
construction sheet. The result of course would be, and is, a slightly elongated
Union, as Graham pointed out.
Incidentally, in Christian Fogd Pedersen's book "The International Flag Book in
Colour" (1970 edition), the ratio given goes like this :
length---8-1-8 width--4-1-4 (St George=1 unit) which means that the overall
ratio is 9:17! (obviously to get a "perfect" Union at 1:2 in the canton -
dubious.) The same problem occurs in South African Naval Ensign, but they get
around the problem here simply by "stretching" the horizontal stripes and thus
keeping the triangle at the hoist in canton intact.
Martin Grieve, 19 November 2003
Neubecker (Flaggenbuch (1939)) also
obviously used an official source and based his figures on an overall flag size
of 900x1800 (which is the smallest unit size using whole numbers that can be
achieved). The exact figures are: for the hoist 390-120-390, for the length
840-120-840, and for the UJ: for the hoist 130-26-78-26-130, for the length
340-26-78-26-340, and for the saltire (white) 39, (red) 26, (fimbriation) 13.
Once again the Flaggenbuch has proved correct, and I would have saved myself an
awful lot of calculation if I'd consulted it before drawing up my own spec some
time ago.
Christopher Southworth, 19 November 2003
The truth is that I did not have a scan of white ensign from Flaggenbuch (1939)
to work with, and when I mentioned this book, I was referring to the
construction of the Union Jack proper (which I do have a scan of) the width of
St George being 1/10th length of UJ, which as you have correctly pointed out, is
different when placed on white ensign.
Martin Grieve, 20 November 2003
What size were the Ensign and Jack on ships like the HMS Victory?
I can give you the sizes for a first rate in the establishment of 1822:- Ensigns
of 26, 16 and 10 breadths (of 9" per breadth) or in round figures 20' x 40', 12'
x 24' and 7' 6" x 15', jacks of 10 breadths and pennants 24 yards (21.9 metres)
in length. It is, however, entirely possible that (whilst the sizes of ships had
increased) the sizes of flags had lessened between 1805 and 1822? An ensign
reputedly flown by HMS Brunswick (which as far as I can find out was not a first
rate) at the battle of the Glorious First of June 1794 measures 20' x 40' (6.1m
x 12.2m), and the largest size of ensign in the establishment of 1742 was about
28' x 51'?
By this period the jack was only worn at anchor, and I would suggest that the
largest size of ensign was flown in battle, the middle in harbour and the
smaller in stormy conditions (but I am not sure).
Christopher Southworth, 23 November 2004
Going by contemporary paintings, the ensign was about the same length as the
mizzen topgallant yard. The width of the ensign was about 3/5ths of the length.
Ships were also issued with a smaller storm flag; Red Ensign only. The jack,
normally flown only in harbour, was about 1/3rd to 1/4th the size of the ensign.
David Prothero, 24 November 2004
Some of the flags which have been used as jacks in conjunction with the White Ensign:
David Prothero, 2 January 2004
Source: The Navy List (2005) (p. 234)
Andrew Thomas, 14 November 2005An unusual version of the White Ensign was shown on BBC Television in the
North East and Cumbria today. There was an item about the restoration and
re-launch of HMS Trincomalee, a former Royal Navy frigate originally launched in
1874. The report claimed that she was the oldest British ship still actually
afloat, as both HMS Victory and the clipper Cutty Sark are both in special
drydocks.
The report showed a depiction of the Trincomalee's flag as flown from her stern.
This was a standard White Ensign, but the three blank quarters of the flag had
been defaced by what appeared to be a black stencil of Trincomalee under full
sail in black. As the ship is no longer in commission and belongs to a private
trust which paid for its restoration, I do not think that Trincomalee is
entitled to fly the WE in any shape, and certainly not in a defaced form. The
directors of the trust which own and refitted Trincomalee have announced that
they plan to enter her in various Tall Ship races and to have her as a working
vessel again insofar as this is possible. In this case I would have thought that
Trincomalee should fly the Red Ensign and not the White.
Ron Lahav, 14 November 2005
IIn certain circumstances, during the greater part of the 1914-1918 War, ships
of the Royal Navy flew a distinguishing flag in addition to the White Ensign
because of the dangerous similarity between the White Ensign and the German
Naval Ensign. The practice of flying an additional flag appears to have been
introduced in local orders by the Commander-in-Chief of the Grand Fleet (the
fleet based in Britain) as the result of difficulties experienced during the
Battle of Heligoland Bight on 28 August 1914. It was then adopted by the
Admiralty on a Navy-wide basis. The accounts in both
Perrin (1922) 'British Flags' and
Wilson (1999) Flags at Sea, appear to
be inaccurate in some respects.
GFO : Grand Fleet Order. GFSO : Grand Fleet Signal Order.
AIO : Admiralty Interim Order. CIO : Confidential Interim Order (?)
Flag to be used.
2 Sep 1914. Blue Ensign. GFO No.122.
6 Sep 1914. Union Jack replaced Blue Ensign. GFO No.142.
16 Nov 1914. Red Ensign replaced Union Jack. AIO S.55/1914.
11 Jan 1916. Union Jack replaced Red Ensign. AIO S.13/1916.
21 May 1918. Confirmation that the Order of 11 January 1916 was to be regarded
as cancelled. AIO S.449/1918.
Occasions when the Additional Flag was to be Flown.
2 September 1914.
When going into action or approaching any suspicious vessel, especially in low
visibility.
GFO No.122.
19 September 1914.
All H.M. ships and vessels when at sea. GFSO No.1.
26 November 1915.
All H.M. ships and vessels when at sea. In a Fleet or Squadron, in clear
weather, the actions of the Senior Officer were to be followed in hoisting the
Red Ensign, but in thick weather it was to be hoisted at once. It was always to
be flown by destroyers or detached ships. AIO S.266.
11 January 1916.
On sighting a Man of War, or when in action, but not in sight of land or
merchant shipping. AIO S.13/1916.
Position from which Additional Flag was to be Flown.
14 September 1914.
In a conspicuous position on or near the foremast or only mast, using stays, or
other convenient projections. Destroyers and Torpedo Boats were to fly it at the
yard-arm, to leave the masthead available for answering Pendant and Signals. AIO
No.62.
26 November 1915.
The Red Ensign was not to be flown at the masthead. It was to be well clear of
the signal halliards and wireless, and at least its own length away from the
mast. In ships with one mast the fore steaming light halliards were suggested as
being probably the best position. In ships with two masts the Red Ensign was to
be flown at or near the mainmast. Destroyers were to fly the Red Ensign at the
yard-arm. AIO S.266.
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