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Hamburger Lloyd (Shipping Company, Germany)

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[Hamburger Lloyd 9 stripes] image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 27 Aug 2008

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Hamburger Lloyd

Another branch of this inland shipping company, established at Hamburg, flying a similar flag with a red canton bearing the well-known castle in white.
See the Binnenvaart site - house flag as a drawing on the 'Sabrit' page (scroll down to the little camera logo near '1975 Alpenbüttel' which links to a photo showing the flag flying prominently): - drawing plus photo of 'Alchimist Emden' flying two HL flags: one on the bow, the other on a movable mast.
Jan Mertens, 30 Sep 2007

Image based on a photo of a life-size Hamburger Lloyd flag, nine stripes, and canton of  five stripes high.  See also FOTW-ws for a drawing plus a Berlin variant:
It is from German eBay offer no. 330041540474 (end 31 Oct 2006) put up by "lz530" in an inelegant, but efficient, manner.  Comments: straight from the mast; somewhat worn and discoloured; woven (not specified); dimensions given as 0.90 m x 1.35 m.
Jan Mertens, 27 Aug 2008

LLoyd Seeschiffahrt

[LLoyd Seeschiffahrt] image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 26 Aug 2008

Hamburger Lloyd(?)
Description of flag: It is a horizontal 7-stripes flag with alternating black and yellow stripes starting with a black one and a red canton with a white “Hamburg-gate”, being the flag of the City of Hamburg.
Source: I spotted this flag on 20 February 2007 in Hamburg-Horn
Table flags spotted on flee markets are always a little bit risky. They may have been hoisted upside down or have other faults. Normally there should be 9 stripes on Hamburger Lloyd flags. It looks like a flag with two stripes cut away.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 26 Aug 2008

Some time ago a real flag was offered on German eBay and it has nine stripes allright.  Put up (literally) by the man with the clothesline, it is a handsome item I'll send a photo of.
But... another item offered was a table flag, as above but having only seven stripes.
But... another item was a table flag, seven stripes, with the Antwerpen city flag (with arms) in the canton.
"Flaggen auf dem Rhein" (1952) lists no fewer than four variants (none of the above) but at least one of them is on FOTW-ws: Rhein-Fracht... albeit under a different name!
Were the seven stripes once upped to nine?  Or do humble table flags have to do with merely seven?
To crown it all, a shipping company bearing the same name was founded at Hamburg in 2006, thankfully using a different colour scheme.
Jan Mertens, 26 Aug 2008

Having seen both images I now believe, that I saw a flag of LLoyd Seeschiffahrt. As Jan has also given a photo, I also believe that the canton of my image was undersized.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 28 Aug 2008

Hamburger Lloyd - Berlin branch

[Hamburger Lloyd] image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 28 Aug 2008

It is not the flag of Hamburger Lloyd itself, but according to Nuesse a flag of a companies subsidiary.
It is a horizontal 9-stripes flag with alternating black and yellow stripes starting with a black one. In the canton is a black bear in a red field. So probably the company was a Berlin branch. Hamburger Lloyd had been an inline-shipping company.
Source: I spotted this flag on 28 May 2004 in a pub in St.Pauli. The flag was identified with the help of Josef Nuesse, Drochtersen on 25 September 2007.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 29 Sep 2007