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image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 27 Aug 2008
See also:Image based on a photo of a life-size Hamburger Lloyd flag, nine stripes,
and canton of five stripes high. See also FOTW-ws for a drawing
plus a Berlin variant:
It is from German eBay offer no. 330041540474 (end 31 Oct 2006) put
up by "lz530" in an inelegant, but efficient, manner. Comments: straight
from the mast; somewhat worn and discoloured; woven (not specified); dimensions
given as 0.90 m x 1.35 m.
Jan Mertens, 27 Aug 2008
Hamburger Lloyd(?)
Description of flag: It is a horizontal 7-stripes flag with alternating
black and yellow stripes starting with a black one and a red canton with
a white “Hamburg-gate”, being the flag of the City of Hamburg.
Source: I spotted this flag on 20 February 2007 in Hamburg-Horn
Table flags spotted on flee markets are always a little bit risky.
They may have been hoisted upside down or have other faults. Normally there
should be 9 stripes on Hamburger Lloyd flags. It looks like a flag with
two stripes cut away.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 26 Aug 2008
Some time ago a real flag was offered on German eBay and it has nine
stripes allright. Put up (literally) by the man with the clothesline,
it is a handsome item I'll send a photo of.
But... another item offered was a table flag, as above but having only
seven stripes.
But... another item was a table flag, seven stripes, with the Antwerpen
city flag (with arms) in the canton.
"Flaggen auf dem Rhein" (1952) lists no fewer than four variants (none
of the above) but at least one of them is on FOTW-ws: Rhein-Fracht... albeit
under a different name!
Were the seven stripes once upped to nine? Or do humble table
flags have to do with merely seven?
To crown it all, a shipping company bearing the same name was founded
at Hamburg in 2006, thankfully using a different colour scheme.
Jan Mertens, 26 Aug 2008
Having seen both images I now believe, that I saw a flag of LLoyd Seeschiffahrt.
As Jan has also given a photo, I also believe that the canton of my image
was undersized.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 28 Aug 2008
It is not the flag of Hamburger Lloyd itself, but according to Nuesse
a flag of a companies subsidiary.
It is a horizontal 9-stripes flag with alternating black and yellow
stripes starting with a black one. In the canton is a black bear in a red
field. So probably the company was a Berlin branch. Hamburger Lloyd had
been an inline-shipping company.
Source: I spotted this flag on 28 May 2004 in a pub in St.Pauli. The
flag was identified with the help of Josef Nuesse, Drochtersen on 25 September
2007.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 29 Sep 2007